Rega rb250 revisited for the past week or so i have been experimenting with the rega rb250 tonearm with the aim of trying to confirm if all the vinyl experts out there, especially the origin live folks, were correct when they said the rb250 when modded can outperform the topend rega tonearms. Save rega rb 250 tonearm to get email alerts and updates on your ebay feed. Apr 09, 2014 regas decision in the early 1980s to invest in the expensive tooling required to manufacture a rigid, onepiece cast tone arm as the compact discs introduction loomed, produced both immediate and long term sonic and financial benefits. Due to the arm developing an earth problem i decided to replace it rather than rewire it. It still had the cheap plastic end stub for the weight, but the arm assembly is of better quality compared to the stockarm.
Fomo, the arm should be finger tight as trackside suggests and rega recommend. Wide, deep soundstage, superb midrange and deep bass. However, the design leaves a lot to be desired, where the tonearm wire is concerned. You can see how much i raised the arm, where i pushed the rega black collar down against the vta. If you tighten or loosen that screw inside the arm pivot, kiss the sucker goodbye. Everyone and their brother seems to be a expert on re wiring a rega arm. Only rega technicians have the tools to fix that including proprietary ones that are set to torque, and it takes weeks to get right. I dont have the time to find them right now but the instructions are on the internet. New collar with two locking screws, which, along with the. Rega spacer for rb250 rb300 and rb600 tonearmsaudio advisor. In fact the only original rega parts that are reused on the audiomods creation are the arm tube and even that goes through some serous changes the arm.
The biggest short coming of an rb250 202 type arm is the plastic counter weight extension. Jan 21, 2011 prior to modification the rb900 rb600 and rb300 are superior to the rb250 but after modification, the rb250 is slightly better than the modified rb900 rb600 and rb300. Since buying my planar 3 ive been very impressed with it. Audiomods rega rb250251 arm conversions rega arm owners or.
New tonearm on rega planar 1 2016 steve hoffman music. The origin live modified rega rb250 tonearm italian version product. What starts as a rega rb250 or rb251 arm finishes as something so different as to be nearly unrecognizable, in a good way. Best matching cartridge for rb300250 sign in to follow. Drill it like michell tecnoarm does anyone have a template.
There seems to be silicon below the bearing, according to cross sectional diagrams i have seen. Including turntable power supply upgrades, motor upgrade kits, arm spacers, drive belts and turntable mats. Suitable for rega arms with thread mount, like rb250, rb300, rb600 and other oem arms made by rega. Systemdek iix xad armboard for rega rb250 rb300 rb303 etc. I bought it without arm and intend to fit my modded rb300 with incognito rewire and upgraded counterweight. Nov 26, 2011 fwiw, i use an ortofon rondo blue on my thorens td2010.
Of course, the star of that turntable is the arm, used by countless other manufacturers on their own turntables. At the moment i am using a denon dl103 on my pimped 1210 in the sharp end of a rega rb250 which has a metal end stub. Audiomods rega rb250251 arm conversions rega arm owners. Incognito tonearm pure silver rewire kit for rega arms just send us your arm and we do the rewire award winning silver rewire for all rega arms. Rega rb330 tone arm the rega rb330 tonearm is an essential part of the iconic planar 3 turntable. A forum topic i subsequently read suggested that the rega s magnetic antiskate scaling as equivalent vtf is at best approximate, and suggests in reality using about one third to half the value as marked on the scale.
Hello all, i recently installed an ortofon 2m bronze with my rega rp 40 turntable, with a view to upgrading to the 2m black when the stylus had worn. I dont know about rewiring it with a kit, but i think that the new weight is great value for money. See comparison comments at bottom of owners views page. The rega rb300 and 250 arms where designed by rega s roy gandy in the early 80s if memory serves. The arm on the thorens is essentially a rega rb250. This is compatible with all rega tonearms and derivatives, except rb100 series tonearms. For service enquiries and product information please contact your local dealer or distributor. Sanding the cartridge mounting surface of the headshell.
Rega rp1 tonearm upgrade audiogon discussion forum. Admittedly the rega arm didnt get the best out of this cartridge in my opinion. Heavy weight mods to the rega rb 250 and 300 tonearm english. They are found mounted not only to rega tables, but also those offered from mitchell, basis, and vpi, to name just a few. This is a genuine rega rb101 tonearm in superb arm cut out will be for rega arms with nut and pillar type fitting and not the moden 3 screw type. Rega s roy gandy even went on record in the british what hifi magazine explicitly counseling against modifying the rega arm in any way or form.
If i like the new arm i will sell the old one at a cut rate. Rega rb202 tonearm new, improved arm tube, threepoint arm mounting system, and frictionless movement make rega rb202 tonearm a great analog performer and superb value as the newest version of one of the original rb250 design familiar to audiophiles the world over, the upgraded rega rb202 tonearm takes full advantage of a new arm tube and the. The new 330 model has less resonance, better bearings, and much better wiring. We have conducted quite a few tone arm upgrades over the years on sl1200 tables. The first rega turntables built during the 70s carried a rega designed japanese built s shaped tonearm called the r200. In good condition with a couple of light scratched that can be touched up with a sharpie. As mentioned at the very top of this page, rega now use a 24 volt motor for some of their turntables, and this kit allows any rega design and the many derivatives to be retro fitted with the latest spec setup. Given the rb 303 tonearm has no vta adjustment, and the 2m black is sensitive to rake angle, i wonder if it is worth pairing the two. I did once own a ol1 rb250 which was fully modified by origin live, it was superb in my opinion, the best arm ive ever owned, super clean an open, effortless.
Thought i would try and contribute to the forums a bit and start an owners club or two. Buy this before you upgrade your phono stage or your cartridge. The main attraction to the rega arms are the quality of the bearings, and the one piece arm tube construction. Michael lim turntable accessories compatible with diy. When you build a diyturntable, start with a rb250 251 and you can mount any better 222mm arm later, and there are a lot of them. Page 1 of 2 23 posts go to page 1, 2 next previous. Next was the expressimo vta adjuster, shown in the first pic.
Im considering a rega rb2000, audiomods series 5, clearaudio, moth 2000. Rega rb250 tonearm upgrade optionsopinions audiogon. Mar 20, 2006 hi all i have been reading about tweaking and have started to tweak my rega rb250 tomearm. It sounds best when fairly loosely tightened to the armboard, which decouples it from its noisy surroundings. The arm should always be treated with respect and under no circumstances should any part be removed or tampered with. Rega rb300 the rb300 was introduced in 1983, the long awaited replacement for the acos derived r200 and the first tonearm to be manufactured at the rega factory. Im currently using and ao fettled rb250 with johnnies own subweight upgrade and rewired with one of the two pricier options of wire not sure which.
I tracked down an rb300 with an upgraded bearing and i am in the process of bolting my denon into it. Music direct reserves the right to select the carrier and ship method within the terms of this offer. What is the best way to rewire a rega rb250 tonearm without taking apart the bearing. I want do my best to help you by cnc software if you need it again. Audio origami rega counterweight upgrade pack for rb250 and. Should i stay with rega parts or go with 3rd party alternatives and if. Systemdek iix and rega rb250 tonearm with images turn table. Similarly, the antiskate has to be right as well, or the same sort of effect occurs re left versus right channels.
Rega vta adjustment sold out but expected in again. When a cart tag broke,the rega distributor replaced the arm with a 250 which was a nice upgrade. Fortunately, the rega is a light arm that doesnt disturb the suspension on suspended subchassis decks, but it still needs careful installation. Please contact us if you require anything that is not listed. Rega rb300 arm, silver rewire upgraded counterweight. Its very easy to use thanks to the big finger lift, as well. The arm still uses the plastic rear stub, steel weight and bias slider of the rb250, but now features a variant of rega s 3point fixing on the base.
A guide to rega tonearms from rb250 to michell tecnoarms. One wrong move by just being curious of that screw for the bearing will kill the arm. Deco audio sapphire ball bearing for rega turntables. Tonearm rewire for rega type arms, we recommend the.
Better midrange i suppose and a slightly more controlled bass response. One of the biggest upgrades, imo, that we did to the pacific northwest audio societys turntable which has the rb250 arm was the michell technoweight. So far ive added the rb300 and some bigger feet, everything else is still stock for now but im looking at some upgrades. Rega planar 3 turntable upgraded motor 2 linn lp12s 1 nirvana, 1 valhalla. The plastic counterweight is no negative aspect imo. But a lot of ifs and it will take time as i am somewhat wading through the digital options as well as looking into overseas work again. Any attempt to modify or repair this product, other than by an official rega retailer listed on. The tonearm is rega s evergreen rb250, still the finest budget arm on the market, with its onepiece casting from headshell to bearing. Audiomods rega rb250 251 arm conversions rega arm owners or wannabees take note. The rb250 will work on the linn though im not sure what actual gains youll make over your present arm.
Vibrations pass back from the stylus at a whole range of frequencies into the arm, reflected back by the counterweight, causing the arm to bend and twist variably at different frequencies. New srm tech azure superb diy turntable using rega parts just add rega deck. I should have bought this years ago has made a superb improvement to the sound on my michell syncro with rb250. The rega arms are, in stock form, an excellent value. This tonearm is connected to the cartridge and assists the planar 3 turntable in playing quality music or any other audio. I just got my first rega planar 3 which came with an r200, the japanese. To get some tips on earthing etc i decided to hit the internet. I would surely discuss this with a retailer before spending the money for a rega arm, at least the rb250. The new p3 is a killer little table, it would be hard to upgrade a p1 to sound as good without spending more than a new p3. Quick question on setting up the rega rb250 tonearm. The low frequency response improvement is significant. Two components are required the new tone arm base along with the tone arm of choice. I know that there are a lot of rega modified tonearms out there. Rega rb250 rb250 tonearm arm lifter bottom plastic cap.
This is best accomplished using the 2mm rod supplied to poke the grommets out through the top of the tube. The rubber grommets are not required and should not be refitted as the origin live internal wire uses another method of protection. Rega rb300 arm, silver rewire upgraded counterweight ebay. By 1983 the time had come for rega to design and build its own tonearm and so the world famous rb300 rega britain was born. Express machining stainless steel end stub for rega rb250 arm. Incognito tonearm pure silver rewire kit for rega arms.
The result of more than 30 years of tonearmdesign expertise, and a finetuned continuation of the iconic rb300 tonearm, the rega rb303 tonearm blends extreme stability, frictionfree movement from the highprecision bearing assemblies, and superior strength into a highperforming instrument that represents one of the best analog values in high. Oct 19, 2011 i prefer the standard rb300 over the standard rb250, the 300 has better bass and focus. Dec 01, 2008 have a nad 533 with rega rb250 tonearm. The ground shipping method used will be determined at music directs discretion. Rega 250 tone arm with upgraded michell counterweight. Rega rb300 rb250 nad goldring tonearm xtc 3gm upgrade counterweight. Upgrade stainless steel stub and counterweight for rega rb. Origin live structural upgrade for rega tonearms counterweight upgrade fits rega rb250, rb300, rb600, rb700 rb900 and the rb.
Heavy weight modification to the rega rb 250 and rb 300 tonearm a listening. Rega rb250 record vinyl player turntable deck tonearm pick up. Includes cartridge liddustcover audacity software etc. I did some research before posting here, but im still a bit unsure and i dont want. I think you may be right about the problem being the suspension conversely i didnt rate the at95e at all on the technics, and tried it again recently to be sure, but on the thorens it is as mick69 says. Michael lim by initially sharing with you my tweaking experience and tips, later introducing my series of turntable upgrade diy accessories, i hope to have made it easier for more vinyl enthusiasts to join in and enjoy the fun of tweaking, enhancing ones analogue. This easy to fit counter weight system is made from heavy stainless steel and aluminium. It isnt, so i wouldnt do that, the arm will just be more inconvenient to use. Rega moth rb250 counter weight upgrade stainless steel. Rega r200 rb250rb251rb300rb301 custom designed tonearm alignment protractor. The wire is thin, the plastic covering is stiff and hard to work with, and flexes in basically one spot where it comes out of the arm tube. Michell tecnoweight rega arm upgrade from turntableworld. I now have a very small window where the anti skating adjustment is perfect. The main difference being that modified rb250 has more power and control in the bass than an rb 900 rb600 or rb 300.
Music direct will not charge additional shipping for any back orders items. The as is crap, ok, but others are no more precise. Rega tonearm upgrade modifications to massively improve. Rega planar 3 upgrades, mods belts, bearings etc etc 2. Rega research rp8 turntable aims for mass extinction analog.
We can supply all available rega parts and accessories, even those that are not listed on our website. The incognito easy rider is an elegant solution, infinitely adjustable height,the arm being locked into place by the original fixing nut. Im sure ive heard one being used on a rega arm and it improved a bit on the rega weight, ive not explored any of the alternatives though. Rega owners club owners clubs and forums hifi wigwam. Or you could rewire the arm yourself, theres not much to it on a rega arm. I have read that the closer to the pivot point you can get the weight the better, is this true. Whilst some companies have produced exotic solutions to this problem, an economical and equally effective upgrade can be had by simply fitting the counter weight and conter weight extension from an rb303 type arm. Whilst some companies have produced exotic solutions to this problem, an economical and equally effective upgrade can be had by simply fitting the counter weight and counter weight extension stub from an rb303330 type arm upgrade stainless steel stub and counterweight for rega rb arms. I had finally purchased my first serious turntable, a rega planar 2. Circular spacers are available for the rb250, rb300, and rb600 in thicknesses of 2mm, 4mm and 10mm. If you are thinking about tone arms think audio origami. Technics sl1200 mk2 tonearm upgrade recommendations.
I have replaced the original rear spigot to a metal one which came with a new weight. Orders will be held to ship all back ordered items together when they are all received in stock. Transformed vintage thorens td150 turntable, upgraded rega arm, solid 34 santos mahogany. Ortofon 2m black with rega rb 303 tonearm vinyl and. Audio note has a new in house tone arm lineup to replace the turbo charged rega 250 they were using. This jeweled bearing design only offered by groovetracer truly is a reference, and should you decide to purchase one, you can feel confident knowing you have chosen the best subplatter available for your rega turntable. Origin live rb250 structural upgrade origin live from. I replaced it with the rb250 using the stub and weight from a rb300.
Total cost approximately of all of the upgrades from the old rega planar ii. The tecnoweight is a great upgrade for anyone with a compatible rega tonearm. Rb250, 251, rb101 must be fitted with stainless steel stubs. Rega neo turntable psu homesoundaudiomusicsmerecordtonearm. Im looking to upgrade from my rega rb250 thorens tp250 to the turntable is a thorens. When rega tonearms are fitted to turntables from other manufacturers it may be necessary to add a rega arm spacer to achieve the correct arm height. In the next future ill sent to johnnie a rega rb250 for another wonderful upgrade. The upgrade entails reconstructing the rear end of the rega arm. Experience all our products in one of our demo suites. Rewire your rega and experience a night and day significant improvement for rega rb250, rb300, rb600, rb900, rb tonearms. Arm resonances a tonearm is like a seesaw, a weight at one end headshell and cartridge and a counterweight at the other end with a pivot between. The overall musical and sonic performance of the origin live rb250 is.
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